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for your general information... the problem with some old HP/UX hosts is that

1) they don't seem to send a MSS negotiation in the SYN ACK packet.
2) they also send a zero window size on the same.

This broke some code added recently to handle TCP slow start. (which was based
on the initial window size)

Subsequent investigation has shown that an ACK packet arrives after my end
acks the TCP ACK.  however over long distances, this packet gets lost
resulting in the window never opening.

I've fixed the code to probe the window, but this results in possible a delay
in the initial startup until a suitable ack is returned from the host.

Peter

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Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok

In article <2kb78s$[e-mail]>,
Alun Jones <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>Instead of clients being written "SPECIFICALLY" for Trumpet winsock,
>many are probably written specifically for _winsock_, and are tested
>on the Trumpet winsock.  Many of us shareware authors can't afford the
>$400+ for a commercial stack simply to test an application that we
>aren't even sure will make us any money!  I haven't yet made enough
>money from my ftp daemon to afford to buy any commercial stacks to
>test it with, and as it turns out, I have problems with one or two of
>them.

Will you support those that sell for $25 RETAIL?  I would hope so!

>I would love to be able to make my shareware application work on _all_
>stacks, but I can only afford to test it on Peter Tattam's.

What's your threshold? :-)

>As it turns out, a couple of people have switched _TO_ the Trumpet
>Winsock because my application worked on it as opposed to the
>commercial stack.

On the other hand, some people get very unhappy when Trumpet doesn't
perform.  Me among them.  Thus, my search.  Didn't take long to find.

Its not the <winsock> that is the problem.  The Trumpet stuff works rather
well when connected with a packet driver over Ethernet.  Where it has
trouble in my experience is when you try to use the internal SLIP driver.

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Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok

In article <[e-mail]>,
Pete Holsberg <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ashok Aiyar) writes:
>>From: [e-mail] (Ashok Aiyar)
>>Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok
>>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 01:16:19 GMT
>
>>In article <2k90jk$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:
>
>>>Right now there is, IMHO, NO stable Shareware/Freeware Windows selection
>>>available with internal communications and dial scripting capability.
>
>>>And, until there is something I can test and prove out to be stable, I will
>>>continue to make this known.
>
>>That statement is fine as long as you qualify it to state that the
>>Trumpet Winsock is unstable on your test system.  I haven't had the
>>same experience on a number of different systems, but in the event
>>that you would like to code something better, I offer myself as a
>>beta-tester.
>
>I've had the experience of having everything stop for periods of from seconds
>to 10s of seconds while using Trumpet Winsock, but I thought that was caused
>by the SLIP server.
>

NO!  It is likely NOT your server!  <VERY> brief (tenths to hundreths of
seconds) is acceptable; SLIP lines at 14.4 typically have ~230ms of
turnaround time delay.  But anything significantly longer is either a
severely overloaded Ethernet on the other end or something broken.  To
remote sites you have to repeat on the other end and the mesh in the middle;
that advise applies primarily to "local" systems on the net you're calling.

I am now running another stack, which will remain nameless until I get done
with my evaluation.    At which point you'll all hear about it.  My first
impression -- THIS IS WONDERFUL STUFF -- CONSIDER NOTHING ELSE!  It has
three huge wins - (1) it works, (2) it works, (3) it works.

For those who sent me email implying or outright stating that I needed to
see my service provider about terminal server problems (without reading my
.sig from which it could be deduced that <I> run this place :-))

    -- YOU WERE DEAD WRONG.


I have not changed a single hardware item, and no software other than the
package in question which was loaded.  One variable altered.

I have now had a stable SLIP connection at 26.0 kbps (V.fc modem) online
for more than 24 hours.  Zero trouble.  No hangups, no pauses, no odd
stuff at all.  I've run WinQVT, TRUMPET, Mosaic, WS_FTP, and a little gopher.
All ok.

Let me make that clear again for the peanut gallery - - I am clocking my
modem at 115,200bps, running at 26.0kbps base rate on a dial-up, and have
been doing so under reasonably-heavy loads for over 24 hours.  (Mosaic on
this platform is rather nice; I have a high-res screen and 16-bit
sound :-)  Speed isn't bad on these V.fc modems -- even over dialup!)  One
more time -- no hangups, no pauses, no problems.  Just solid performance.

I am waiting for a second package which another person wants me to check
out and render an opinion on.  More on that as well as soon as I can get it
on one of my other machines and check it out as well.

Stay tuned.  Kudos due soon at the present rate of progress.  I'll also
have something to say about the config process and the hoops one has to go
through to get routing right; some of these folks lead you to do <odd>
things to get that to work the way it should.

Best attribute after "it works" of one of these packages:
    Its affordable.  ~$25 retail.


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Subject: FTP server error in qvtnet 3.94


In starting the ftp server in winqvtnet 3.94 I get the following message:
comm_listen:bind[] error 10022
Unable to start ftp server

I am using winsock Alpha 18 with a SLIP connection on a 486 with MSwindows and
a 14.4 modem [Intel].

Any Ideas?  Thanks.
                    >David<
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>I tried to get Win FSP to work (IT LOOKS NICE!!!) but no matter what host
>or port I try, immediatly after I click OK, it pops up a message saying it
>couldn't connect.  I am using Trumpet Winsock.  I've had no problem
>connecting to the hosts via FTP or Telnet either :)

>Any clues?

Yes, I've got ws_fsp to work great, in fact I did a successful rather large
transfer just last night.  I haven't used it much, but what I have seen seems
to work much faster even than the fsp I had compiled for linux... (good
work! :)

---
Thanx!
Tom Reynolds
Department of Academic Computing, LaSalle University

Any opinions expressed in this letter are almost certainly not those held by
my employers, or anyone else with any grain of sanity.
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>Does anyone have a version of TERM (ya know, that program which lets you
>*pretend* you have a tcp/ip link instead of a plain one) compiled against
>winsock? (ie has someone already done the porting?)
>Thanks,
>--john

Term for winsock?  I don't see it as happening.  TERM relies heavily on
certain UNIX-specific aspects of the OS if I remember correctly, and also does
not use tcp-ip directly.  If you've run term, then you know that you don't use
rsh or ftp, you use trsh, or termftp.  Therefore, you'd actually have to
rewite the socket code in the winsock to use these "simulated" sockets.

Sounds like a tough job to me.... Good luck though, I think it'd be an
interesting project...

---
Thanx!
Tom Reynolds
Department of Academic Computing, LaSalle University
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Subject: Re: FTP server error in qvtnet 3.94

In article <2kc8uc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (David Gagnon) writes:
>In starting the ftp server in winqvtnet 3.94 I get the following message:
>comm_listen:bind[] error 10022
>Unable to start ftp server

>I am using winsock Alpha 18 with a SLIP connection on a 486 with MSwindows and
>a 14.4 modem [Intel].

>Any Ideas?  Thanks.
>                                        >David<
Try checking your qvtnet.ini (in your qvtnet directory) and host (in your
winsock directory) files for inconsistencies. In particular you should have
your machine listed as local host in the host file and ip=x.x.x.x in
qvtnet.ini. The new version of qvtnet is on ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the
/pub/pc/win3/winsock directory as qvtws396.zip- check it out.

Mark
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Subject: Re: Can I install Winsock?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Ashok Aiyar) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Ashok Aiyar)
>Subject: Re: Can I install Winsock?
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 00:32:09 GMT

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Michael J. Tardiff) writes:

>>In article <2k94jc$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (
>Unix>Guru) writes:

>>>  Mac users have a program called Eudora which greatly improves the
>>>mail interface.  To my knowledge, they do not require a slip account.
>>>Is there anything I can use to do the same?

>>The Mac Eudora takes advantage of Mac-specific features to provide
>>a dialup-interactive mode of connecting if you don't have a SLIP connection.
>>The PC/Windows version doesn't have those features available, and so
>>requires TCP/IP.

>This is no longer true.  Eudora 2.0.1 has been released and includes
>direct serial port support -- i.e a serial POP3 connection akin to
>Mac Eudora.  Works very well too!!

Well, I'll be!  I'm a Eudora 2.0 customer, and thought I'd signed up
for the notification list; guess not.  Glad that you're better
connected, Ashok, and thanks for the notice.  Guess I'd better send
mail to Qualcomm...

+ Michael

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Subject: Re: Proposal for Internet FAX Software?

Richard MacLennan said:

    I realize there are commercial services on Internet that will receive a
   document and FAX it out for you.  What I am thinking of will allow direct
   FAXing to anyone on Internet (FAXing to the "Internet-deprived" is another
   matter).  Lets cut out the middle-man (phone companies etc).  I would expect
   there would be a very good market for any TCP/IP FAX software priced in the
   "share-ware" range.  I would like to do it myself but I am not a programmer.

This has sort of been done - check out RFC 1486 for more info - using
e-mail.  What's more, it's not just an Internet thing!

It would be nice to have a Windows Fax tool though :-)

Martin

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In article <2js8ur$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Tony Hsieh) writes:

>Does anyone know if a write "server" is available for windows?  That is,
>I want to be able to receive write messages... (also, I'd like to be able
>to send write messages)... If not, how difficult would this be to write?

>Thanks-

>--
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>Tony Hsieh
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write is not a protocol that can be implemented over networks. RFC1312
describes a messaging protocol a-la write that uses UDP or TCP (both
acceptable) packets to do write functionality. The only commercial
implementation I know of is PC-NFS messaging, included with PC-NFS from 4.0
and above.
I have written a similar winsock client but so far I can only get the TCP
portion to work, UDP baffles me a little in this case and I need it for
broadcasts. As soon as it works I will add it to the my application suite
(rather poor at the moment, contains just finger and host lookup but there
more coming). Look for it (eventually) in the uploads directory of
petros.psychol.utas.edu.au (Peter Tattam's machine).
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Andreas

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Subject: Eudora 1.44 (rel 22) : HELP !


I just downloaded Eudora and was trying it. Tried reading and sending mails
from the Eudora client in Windows. Then I login to my Unix account to
check if I can still read my mails there, but they are GONE !

Seems all my mails have been transferred to my local hard disk ! Oh dear...
Is there something I can do to transfer them back to the Unix system so
that I can con't reading it from there as I when I need to ?

Appreciate any help.

Thanks !!
Stacy Seah
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Subject:  Re: Buggin' Out!

>>I've got my SLIP connection up and running using Trumpet Winsock's TCPman and
>>various client software (Eudora, Cello, Mosaic, HGopher, EINet
>>WinWAIS,Winarch, WSPing, etc.), but I keep getting general protection faults
>>and EMM386 errors almost everytime I am using these programs and am forced to
>>reboot.  Is it me or is all this software incredibly buggy?  Any suggestions
>>on how to make things run more smoothly?
>
>Yes they are incredibly buggy.  If you notice, most of that stuff is in either
>alpha or beta, or the first version.  [deleted....]

I would definitely disagree that the apps are buggy or that Trumpet Winsock
is buggy.  From personal experience and from lots of feedback I'd say there
must be something wrong with your configuration, your slip line (noise) or
the hardware you are using.  Now that you are using a different network
transport try the apps again.  If they work now (they will if you are using
a Winsock DLL that is Winsock compliant) then it must have been your
Trumpet configuration (like maybe MTU, MSS, etc).  (I use MTU 255, RWIN 627,
MSS 209)

John
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Subject: Re: Winsock for v3.11 ???

David M. Miller ([e-mail]) wrote:
: In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (christopher edward etesse) writes:

: Try Novell's LAN Workplace for DOS.  Even though it says, "for DOS,"
: it actually includes a Windows DLL for using sockets (maybe two).  Two
: years ago, when I was working on a Windows TCP/IP project, we used LWP
: as the protocol stack and I thought it worked fairly well.  At the
: time, however, the WinSock API hadn't yet been established, but LWP
: came with a DLL called WLIBSOCK.DLL, which (apparently) supported an
: API much the same as that of WINSOCK.  I have to presume that by now,
: LWP has a WINSOCK.DLL.

: BTW, it's not enough to just have a WINSOCK.DLL... there also has to
: be an underlying protocol stack.  WinSock is just a standard interface
: to that protocol stack and must be provided by the vendor of the
: protocol stack.  Since you're using Novell already, you might look
: into theirs.

: dmm
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From: [e-mail] (Luke Howard)
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Subject: secure finger server

Can someone point me to a secure finger server for Winsock?

I like Text Server but the idea of anyone on the Internet
being able to do finger autoexec.bat@myhost isn't very
appealing :-)


L.

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Luke Howard          <[e-mail]>        Melbourne, Australia